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hey everybody and welcome to nasa

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science live i'm molly mckinney one of

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your co-hosts for today as we join you

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from the hampton roads convention center

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right here in hampton virginia and cover

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day one of the 2021

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moon to mars ice and prospecting

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challenge brought to you by nasa what's

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going on behind me why don't you all

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take a look

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students have gathered from 10 different

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universities

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across the country to test their

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original technologies to solve a lunar

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and martian exploration dilemma which is

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how to access subsurface ice and then

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melt that ice into water

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why is this important to nasa

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well as we look forward to the artemis

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program to the moon and even one day

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crude missions to mars being able to

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access resources like water will be

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crucial for humans to survive on other

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worlds so teams have been tasked with

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designing an ice and water harvesting

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system for use on the moon or mars not

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an easy task and today they're testing

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their systems out in a head-to-head

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competition now we are in person this

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year who jumped through quite a few

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hurdles to make that happen and we are

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following very strict covid protocols to

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make that possible including everyone on

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the floor wearing face masks we are all

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fully vaccinated or we've had proof of a

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negative covid test in hand

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now if you have any questions throughout

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and we'll try our best to get those

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answered for you today it is a live show

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that's one of the many perks of it being

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well i'm sure you can hear the

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this is a real live show so there's

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drills happening as we talk but before

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we get into the competition why don't

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you step over here and i'm going to

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explain a little bit more of the process

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so you can understand how the muno mars

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you'll see these blue bins at each one

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of the team stations and situated at the

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very bottom of these bins is a block of

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water ice now the objective of this

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correspondence desk so natalie let's

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thanks molly hi everyone i'm natalie

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mars ice ice and prospecting challenge

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coming to you live from the hampton

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and let me tell you you can just feel

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the excitement in the air as teams work

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diligently to extract water from these

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an aerospace engineer at nasa langley

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research center thank you so much for

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joining us today alejandro oh thank you

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for having me yes so i understand that

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nasa is returning to the moon can you

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tell me more about this exciting

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uh this time with a sustained presence

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industries in ways we haven't done

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water on the moon and mars

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being able to harvest water on the

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that i think alejandro is super cool

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getting some water and it's super

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chance to test all these ideas and i'm

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excited to see how they come out

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well thank you alejandro um we actually

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have some questions coming in from our

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hashtag ask nasa and you can submit your

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questions just use that hashtag ask nasa

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so alejandro emily on youtube asks are

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there any future plans to launch to mars

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from the moon since the moon's gravity

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well is much smaller than the earth so

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a lower gravity well as a launching

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is it really safe to drink martian or

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a filtration system um so i will go with

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them maybe

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maybe okay

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we'll see so we have one more our final

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ask nasa question for you alejandro and

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scott on youtube wants to know more

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about the new viper mission that will

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scout for water on the moon and actually

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scott we just selected the landing site

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for the viper rover on monday so that's

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a great question i love this so

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alejandro can you tell me more about

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that and how the viper rover ties into

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this competition today of course um so

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yes the landing site was recently

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selected uh it was selected for the

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nobile region near the south pole so one

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of the challenges is we know there is

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water there but we don't know exactly

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what concentration and distribution is

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there so viper is going to answer those

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very questions and give us a better idea

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of kind of a resource mapping and based

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off that it will give us a better idea

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of how we can extract the

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water from

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um those areas which is in turn uh going

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to guide us and how we can develop these

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icu technologies that you see today

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great that's so exciting i am really

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really excited about all these missions

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we have going on at nasa so alejandro

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thank you so much for joining us today

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of course thank you for having me

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now molly has some exciting things to

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show you all out in the pit but first

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let's learn a little bit more about

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nasa's upcoming viper rover

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we know from decades of study that the

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moon has water but where and how much

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in 2023 a robotic rover will explore the

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moon's surface in search of water ice

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nasa's viper moon rover will perform the

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first resource mapping mission on

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another world using advanced instruments

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and tools to determine the location and

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concentration of water on the moon

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to send viper to the moon we're

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leveraging industry as part of our

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commercial lunar payload services

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program a program designed to send

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science instruments and technology

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payloads to the surface of the moon

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wiper represents a very different

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development paradigm we are developing

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each instrument for launch on eclipse

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ahead of wiper totally flipping on its

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head how we normally do this this is

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truly creative an industry partner will

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launch viper to the moon's south pole

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this is a place where no human or rover

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has ever been before

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the rover's survey will provide

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scientists with the most detailed view

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of the moon's water to date and point to

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spots where water could be harvested by

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future astronauts

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viper will be the first resource mapping

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mission on the surface of another

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celestial body it represents a new kind

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of mission for nasa in which the

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objectives of advancing science and

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human exploration are closer than ever

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the measurements that viper's

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instruments will make can help us

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understand the source and distribution

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of the water and other volatiles on the

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moon giving us insight into the

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evolution of the moon and the earth moon

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system the moon's water is also a

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precious resource that could be

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extracted to support human exploration

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of the moon and beyond

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what we learn from viper will bring us a

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step closer to developing a sustainable

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go team viper we are proud of you all

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looking forward to it for those of you

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just joining us we are coming to you

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live for nasa's coverage of the 2021

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moon to mars ice and prospecting

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challenge now as you look around the pit

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area today you'll notice that each of

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these teams have a different design

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that's really unique to that team and to

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that university each team brings a

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different idea to the table and that

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diversity of ideas that we get from

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including students in a competition like

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this really helps us expand our

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collective understanding not just for

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nasa but really as a as a global science

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community

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now this is the fifth year of this

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competition and every year we really

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learned something new what worked what

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didn't work and this collective

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knowledge from student-led ideas can

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really pave the way for future crude

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missions to places like mars and the

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moon

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today is day one of this year's

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competition and teams are operating

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their systems for the first time

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i was talking to a couple of the teams

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yesterday and these systems had never

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traveled before so

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it's always a little nerve-wracking

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powering these on for the first time

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most of the university students today

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are using a drill to dig through the

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simulated lunar and martian soil to get

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to the ice below it

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and along the way to the ice teams have

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to collect data about the layers they're

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drilling through how many layers there

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are how thick they are how dense they

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are and they'll use this information to

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create a digital core that they'll be

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judged on at the end of the competition

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and then to extract the water below

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teams have converged upon a strategy of

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melting a pool of ice underneath the

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surface and pumping it out

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rather than trying to extract the ice

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so now that you all understand a little

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bit about the competition let's go talk

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to some of the teams out here on the

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floor our first one up here is from

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stevens institute of technology and you

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made it easy for me i don't even need

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the cue card for this one

421
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steven nice to meet you nice to meet you

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so tell me a little bit about your

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design and if you modeled it after

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anything sure so that is the

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extractinator very much like a 3d

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printer we're able to translate our

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drone extractor back and forth forward

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and back and up and down using stepper

429
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motors our drill is a commercial off the

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shelf rotary percussion drill which has

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a half meter long drill bit

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while we're drawing through the

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overburden layers we use system

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telemetry to map out our digital core so

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we're measuring things such as weight on

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bit

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feed speed rpm current voltage all that

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and that goes into our msc calculations

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and we can calculate the hardness of

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each of the layers after we're done

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creating our digital core we retract the

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drill move the extractor over and lower

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it down into the hole we use a 750 watt

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cartridge heater and a peristaltic pump

445
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that should do it

446
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yeah it's pretty strong

447
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we create a rod well so while we're

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also extracting the water also

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simultaneously circulating the water to

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further melt the ice and then once we

451
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collect the water it goes through our

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sand filter and then into our collection

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container

454
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,039
it sounds like you thought this through

455
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now your team has competed before what

456
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were some of the challenges you ran into

457
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in years past and how have you

458
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compensated for some of those this year

459
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as you compete sure so two years ago our

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team faced the issue of over melting the

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hole so as they were melting the ice

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water was leaking out the side of it and

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down the test container making get

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unretrievable so to fix that issue we

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installed an optical sensor so that

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tracks the water level of the ice of the

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water as we melt it and combining that

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with our rate of penetration into the

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ice and the time that the pump is

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running we're able to estimate a radius

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of the hole that we melt so we can also

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map out the ice

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as well as the overburden

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having addressed that how do you feel

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about your odds this year of winning

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uh we feel pretty good we have a few

477
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more issues to work out but once we get

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going i think we'll go strong

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cool we'll be we'll be rooting for you

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thanks so much for your time i'll let

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you get back to it thank you it's been a

482
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pleasure yeah let's go over here we've

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got one more team to interview arturo

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over here from uh amd correct yes ma'am

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so arturo tell me a little bit about

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your design and how long you've been

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working on it so this project we've been

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uh working over a year and it has three

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sub systems so the main attraction is

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our tensegrity structure so it consists

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of aluminum rods and uh

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high molecular weight polyethylene

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cables so it's 1 8 of the weight of a

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steel cable and 50 times the strength uh

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when compared to um

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steel cable intention so when you're

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doing a space system you really want to

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do uh lightweight lightweight

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lightweight so that was our first uh

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idea and we went with that so following

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light and tight yes ma'am that's right

502
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and then uh following that we have our

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three in one system so it's able to

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drill extract and heat the eyes to melt

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it so that uh that system was integrated

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all throughout and it was a great you

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know opportunity to do all things

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without moving the drill just even to go

509
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go down once and then just stay down

510
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there and do the whole process as well

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then lastly you have our mounting

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structure it's an aluminum railing

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system low

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uh friction carts that's able to move

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the rail around in case we need to make

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another hole as well yes ma'am and of

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course you did all of this in the midst

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of a global pandemic like all the other

519
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:37,440
teams here how did kobit pose some

520
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challenges for your team of course so

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the main thing was communication and

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manufacturing so communicating with our

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00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:45,760
team was you know slower you know

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everyone's at home the machine shop was

525
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closed so uh the way we overcame this

526
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:51,039
you know we we pulled together knowing

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that if you didn't do your stuff at home

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you know you couldn't meet at the lab or

529
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someone else could do your job so

530
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,440
everyone came together and kind of did

531
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their part knowing that we were counting

532
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on them to do their stuff at home and

533
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,640
you know the manufacturing

534
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,480
machine shop was closed so we ran into a

535
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lot of issues there but you know adapt

536
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and overcome and you know make sure we

537
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we tackle the task ahead for sure how do

538
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you think your team did enduring all of

539
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those hurdles they had to hop through to

540
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still make it here and be here this year

541
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of course i mean we we did a great job

542
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in my opinion you know we have a diverse

543
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group of engineers uh

544
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we have mechanical engineers patrol

545
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engineers aerospace engineers so

546
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:26,320
everyone having this different

547
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disciplines and different backgrounds

548
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that gave us the edge of cover all our

549
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bases and have different viewpoints and

550
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successfully present a project here in

551
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nasa

552
00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,799
well we're really excited to have you

553
00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:38,400
guys here thanks for taking the time

554
00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:40,240
good luck

555
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:42,000
i think you'll hear that common thread

556
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,679
throughout this competition that covet

557
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:45,760
19 pandemic really posed some hurdles

558
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,360
this is a difficult challenge to begin

559
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:49,200
with and then to add in you know

560
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:51,200
manufacturers being closed and

561
00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:52,640
restricted access to different

562
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:54,400
facilities a lot of the resources they

563
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:55,760
had planned on using for these one of

564
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:57,200
the teams back here is using wood

565
00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:58,880
instead of aluminum they weren't

566
00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:00,480
planning to send something to space made

567
00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:02,559
of wood so we have a video to take a

568
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:03,760
look at really quick to give you a

569
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:06,320
little more background on that

570
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:08,640
2020 virtual moon to mars ice and

571
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,799
prospecting challenge tasked university

572
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,320
teams with coming up with novel

573
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,480
solutions to extract water ice beneath

574
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:16,720
the surface on the moon and mars these

575
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,559
are some of the novel ways that last

576
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:20,480
year's teams came up with to solve this

577
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:23,039
unique challenge our drill idea uh the

578
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:25,440
unique thing about it was pulverizing

579
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:27,679
the overburden and then sheathing the

580
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:30,799
hole augering out the dirt melt the ice

581
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:33,120
within the simulated test bed and then

582
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,039
we recirculate it back down which then

583
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:36,960
heats up more ice around it we have a

584
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:39,919
second tool that rotates and articulates

585
00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:42,080
out melt downwards and then melt out we

586
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,919
borrow from the aerospace it's a kind of

587
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:45,840
structure called consecutive structure

588
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:47,679
it's a kind of roads and strength it is

589
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,159
not like our house structure

590
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:52,640
what we were trying to do with leslie is

591
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:55,520
incorporate laser heating into our

592
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:58,720
system for the extraction of water

593
00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:01,200
with the onset of the covet 19 pandemic

594
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:02,720
universities across the country

595
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:05,200
restricted access to on-site facilities

596
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:07,120
greatly impacting the moon to mars ice

597
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:09,919
and prospecting challenge student teams

598
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:11,360
we had

599
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:13,200
constructed all of our subsystems we

600
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:14,240
were in the middle of putting them

601
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,799
together when everything hit as spring

602
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:19,200
break happened then everything with kobe

603
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:22,080
started to ramp up by a week later mit

604
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,679
had already sent all undergraduates home

605
00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:27,840
it was very sudden here

606
00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:29,840
we thought that we would just be able to

607
00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:31,679
do some design work and stuff from home

608
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,280
for a couple weeks and go back and get

609
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,520
access to our lab again but it became

610
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:37,280
evident that that wasn't going to happen

611
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,600
so we rushed over collected all of our

612
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:41,280
supplies threw them in the back of one

613
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:43,600
of our teammates trucks so we had to

614
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,960
take all the parts that were originally

615
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,559
designed to be machined in our machine

616
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:49,039
shop and then redesigned them for 3d

617
00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:50,880
printing and other things you can make

618
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:53,600
at home we're actually a few hours

619
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:54,400
before

620
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:57,120
they locked the doors for three months

621
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:58,320
i don't want to sugarcoat anything

622
00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:59,840
obviously we lost the full head of steam

623
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,240
that we had we hit that brick wall of

624
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:04,559
coke at 19. when things

625
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:07,600
moved online and everyone had to go home

626
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:09,679
a lot of people kind of gave up a lot of

627
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:12,000
the team members did step back and uh

628
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:13,919
kind of focus on their own things but

629
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:16,000
still we we were trying to get a great

630
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,159
paper out so the only thing i can do at

631
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:20,320
this time was to keep a zoom meeting

632
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:22,320
between every team member we used

633
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:24,400
discord and zoom for each one of those

634
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:26,240
meetings we had a zoom call we zoomed

635
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:28,960
calls we stayed together using zooms try

636
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,039
to do this over zoom with microsoft

637
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:33,360
teams it was just like a snap of the

638
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:34,880
finger and everybody just got right back

639
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,480
on board and was able to like let's

640
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,320
finish this let's do this let's let's

641
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:40,320
prove ourselves right because we knew at

642
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,000
the end goal we could still present

643
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:44,400
something and the chance of that kind of

644
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:45,520
pushed us

645
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:47,600
going into a second year with

646
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:50,320
a head start and also a lot more wisdom

647
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:52,159
would be really helpful our senior

648
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,840
project's actually done we finished up

649
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:55,840
all of our testing we made that push and

650
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:57,760
we're handing it off to the next senior

651
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,679
project team that should carry it on for

652
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:01,520
the next three quarters

653
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:04,080
luckily all of us were freshmen so we

654
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,919
have many more years that we'll be able

655
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,159
to refine our design and then go back we

656
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:10,000
expect that the people who were working

657
00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:12,240
on last year's design to keep finishing

658
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:13,919
and tweaking last year's design as much

659
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,000
as possible and getting the best results

660
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,240
on that one and then the new 27 members

661
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:20,000
that we just brought in we'll work on a

662
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,000
completely new design from scratch

663
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,000
it's an entirely new team this year they

664
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,919
have some very good ideas about things

665
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:27,600
that we hadn't even had time to consider

666
00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:30,400
we're already planning to do everything

667
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:31,919
that we were going to do this year we

668
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:33,279
would do it next year

669
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,960
we're definitely very appreciative of

670
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:36,559
the opportunity to

671
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,760
to get to

672
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,440
work and learn through this whole

673
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:41,360
process so we'd like to thank nasa for

674
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,269
if you are just now joining us we're

675
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:55,279
coming to you live from nasa's moon to

676
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:58,080
mars ice and prospecting challenge where

677
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:59,760
teams are drilling through simulated

678
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:01,520
lunar and martian

679
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:04,400
regolith or soil to get to the ice in

680
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:06,080
hopes of extracting water from down

681
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,559
below and i believe my colleague over

682
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,480
there natalie has one of the event

683
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,240
organizers so let's kick things off over

684
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,080
to natalie at the correspondence desk

685
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:16,559
and hear how this competition came to be

686
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,840
natalie

687
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,600
thanks molly and yes i am here with

688
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:21,520
someone very important i'm joined by

689
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:23,200
shelly spears who's in charge of

690
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:25,840
bringing this whole event together thank

691
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:27,600
you so much for joining us shelley thank

692
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:29,279
you natalie it's wonderful to be with

693
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:31,600
you thank you yeah and we're back for

694
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,679
another competition so how is this

695
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:35,679
year's competition going it's going

696
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:37,679
fantastic these teams really came ready

697
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,679
to compete this year as you can tell or

698
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:41,440
just hearing all the drilling and all

699
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,600
the excitement in the room it's been we

700
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:45,679
are off to a fantastic start that's so

701
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,840
great to hear and i know especially

702
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:49,279
because i understand that last year's

703
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,039
competition was canceled due to the

704
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:53,600
pandemic and so i know for you it must

705
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,240
be just so great to see all of these uh

706
00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:58,320
these designs here in person and seeing

707
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,320
everything in action today absolutely

708
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:02,080
they worked so hard on this throughout

709
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:03,919
the year and they've had so many

710
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:05,600
challenges putting their systems

711
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:07,520
together with all of the hiccups and

712
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:10,159
obstacles of covid um and so to have

713
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:12,640
them actually physically be here to put

714
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:14,320
all of their hard work to the test and

715
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:15,760
compete with their colleagues at other

716
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:17,760
universities they're excited we're

717
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:20,080
excited uh and it's it's really great to

718
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,720
see people face to face again i agree so

719
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:24,320
shelley this is the fifth year of the

720
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:25,840
moon tomorrow's ice and prospecting

721
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:28,159
challenge with new teams competing with

722
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,600
new designs

723
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:31,600
what have we learned so far over the

724
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:34,320
lifetime of this competition and why

725
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,200
does nasa continue to support it

726
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:39,440
so we've learned when we first started

727
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:41,120
the competition there were so many

728
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:42,880
different approaches to solving this

729
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:45,760
complex challenge and over time we've

730
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,240
seen teams start to gravitate towards

731
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:50,640
one or two approaches as they learn on

732
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,279
through our through reading technical

733
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:55,039
papers and lessons learned and all the

734
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:56,799
knowledge capture that we do because we

735
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,640
really it's a competition but we're all

736
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:00,320
in this together so we want to share all

737
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:02,720
the best practices everything that works

738
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:04,480
everything that doesn't work so we've

739
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,760
maybe even more importantly we've

740
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:07,600
learned what doesn't work and now we're

741
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:09,120
starting to gravitate towards a couple

742
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:11,120
of approaches that are working well but

743
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,400
we don't want to make it that easy on

744
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,080
them so we keep adding complexity to the

745
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,240
competition things that will help nasa

746
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:17,919
such as the drilling telemetry and some

747
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:20,720
other elements to keep it really hard

748
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:21,679
for them

749
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:23,840
yeah and why do you think competitions

750
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:25,760
like the moon to mars eisen prospecting

751
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:28,320
challenge are beneficial

752
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:29,520
well they're important for a lot of

753
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,559
reasons

754
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:32,080
for students that are entering the

755
00:27:36,389 --> 00:27:34,000
workforce and want to go into aerospace

756
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:36,399
and exploration systems it gives them

757
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:39,039
the opportunity to apply their skills in

758
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,240
a very hands-on way it helps it's a very

759
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,640
cost-effective way for nasa to be able

760
00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:46,399
to put out these complex challenge to

761
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,919
academia because let's face it it's

762
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:50,159
going to take a lot of innovative and

763
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:51,679
creative inputs to solve some of these

764
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:53,120
complex problems

765
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:54,799
and so it takes industry it takes

766
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,559
academia it takes our partners and

767
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,399
international space agencies all of us

768
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,000
working together

769
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:02,000
it also creates a very rich talent pool

770
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,159
for industry and for nasa and let's face

771
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:06,799
it these these students here when we go

772
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,559
and have longer duration human presence

773
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:10,000
on mars and moons it's going to happen

774
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:11,919
in their during their career so they're

775
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:13,919
really getting a good head start

776
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,840
and how can students get involved in

777
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,679
future challenges

778
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,080
there's so many opportunities out there

779
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:22,240
so whether you're in kindergarten or

780
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:24,000
even some preschool all the way through

781
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:25,520
graduate school

782
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,520
nasa does a great job of trying to

783
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,520
create opportunities for students

784
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:32,159
so i would say to go to nasa express you

785
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,240
could just search that in the internet

786
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,720
and nasa express as a newsletter and

787
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:38,159
they do a wonderful job of letting

788
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,760
everyone know all the opportunities that

789
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,919
are out there and shelley how about

790
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,600
just getting involved specifically in

791
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,039
the moon to mars ice and prospecting

792
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,600
challenge so you can go to the nia

793
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:49,679
website or to the nasa website and just

794
00:28:55,950 --> 00:28:52,240
do a search to um nasa moon tomorrow's

795
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:55,960
ice and prospecting challenge or go to

796
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:57,840
rascal.nia.net and you can find the

797
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,760
competition and you can see all about

798
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:01,520
what we're coming up with next sounds

799
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:02,399
good

800
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:05,600
well we have so many ask nasa questions

801
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,840
coming in from our live viewers today

802
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,520
and if you're at home and you'd like to

803
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:11,279
have your question answered live on

804
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,520
today's show use the hashtag asknasa and

805
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:17,279
drop your questions in the comment or

806
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:18,880
the chat box from wherever you're

807
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:21,760
watching us today so shelly our first

808
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:25,760
ask nasa question comes from at i mean

809
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,360
humanone on twitter and they're asking

810
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:30,799
what are the colleges that are

811
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,279
participating in the challenge

812
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:35,520
okay let's see i could start around the

813
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:37,360
room i well

814
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:38,640
okay there's ten there's ten there's

815
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:41,120
definitely there's ten so there's mit

816
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,840
virginia tech i'm gonna is it okay if i

817
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:45,200
do this okay i don't wanna leave anybody

818
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:48,480
out okay auburn university mit san diego

819
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:49,440
state

820
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,440
uh stevens institute of technology

821
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:53,440
university of pittsburgh

822
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,640
cal poly

823
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:56,640
northeastern south dakota state

824
00:30:02,149 --> 00:30:00,159
university texas a m and virginia tech

825
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:02,159
great awesome well congratulations to

826
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:03,919
all those universities for making it out

827
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,399
here today and getting this far and so

828
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:08,320
we have another question from carla

829
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:11,279
suttle on facebook and she wants to know

830
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:13,679
how were these teams chosen

831
00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:16,240
okay so we put out a call for proposals

832
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,039
across the country um it's open to all

833
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:21,520
u.s based universities they can partner

834
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:22,799
with international universities if

835
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:23,840
they'd like

836
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:25,679
and we put out the specs and

837
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:27,760
requirements they submit a project

838
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,279
proposal plan it's reviewed by industry

839
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:33,360
experts and nasa experts our judging

840
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:36,240
panel we pick the teams that seem like

841
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:38,399
they have uh innovative ideas and also

842
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,120
seem well prepared to compete

843
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,919
uh and then we do a down select we give

844
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:45,760
them some initial

845
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:47,120
small amount of funding to start with

846
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:49,039
their software and hardware designs and

847
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,640
then they go through another mid-project

848
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:52,480
review and then they make the final cut

849
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:54,240
and now they're here all right well

850
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:55,919
thank you so much shelly thank you for

851
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:59,039
joining us thank you natalie yes and um

852
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:01,120
molly it's back to you

853
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:03,440
thanks natalie and thank you shelly for

854
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:04,960
putting on another great competition we

855
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:07,120
love coming to this one well i also had

856
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:09,440
a really neat opportunity to interview

857
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:12,000
crew one nasa astronaut victor glover if

858
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,600
you've never heard him speak before get

859
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:15,360
ready because he's an amazingly

860
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:16,880
well-spoken person and he's just a

861
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:19,039
genuinely wonderful human being and we

862
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:20,880
get to talk about this challenge and

863
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,960
what it means for astronauts like him

864
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:24,559
who might actually be an end user of

865
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:26,960
this technology one day sin he does know

866
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:29,039
a thing or two about space first hand so

867
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,480
let's take a look

868
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,720
victor thank you so much for joining us

869
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:34,640
today we are so excited to have you on

870
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,480
the show

871
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,080
molly it's great to be here thank you

872
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:42,950
so right now in the competition our

873
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,840
student teams are operating their unique

874
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,919
technology and they're demonstrating

875
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:49,360
drilling through

876
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:52,080
our simulated lunar and martian surface

877
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:53,840
and they're trying to access the water

878
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:56,080
ice that's hidden beneath

879
00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:58,640
i'm curious for you as an end user that

880
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,679
might benefit from technology like this

881
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:03,600
what value do you see in competitions

882
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:05,600
like this

883
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:07,120
you know first of all i have to really

884
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,640
just appreciate that statement you know

885
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,080
as a potential end user of this

886
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,000
technology that it's amazing that we're

887
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:14,159
going back to the moon with artemis and

888
00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:15,679
the goals of the artemis program and so

889
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:16,880
it's it's actually amazing that our

890
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,799
generation is going to to have a moon

891
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:20,640
mission a moon program that's going to

892
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,399
send us back and i'm really excited

893
00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:24,320
about that effort and so for these

894
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,159
students to be working on technology for

895
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:28,000
us to get access to ice which is a

896
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:30,000
valuable resource you know because we

897
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:31,519
can you need it for life but you also

898
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:33,840
need it for propulsion it's it's a great

899
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,880
component in rocket fuel and so

900
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:39,360
this technology is going to enable us to

901
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:42,320
to find new ways and new ideas for uh

902
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:44,720
extracting this valuable resource from

903
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:46,320
this these sources that we've actually

904
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,549
i'd like to focus a little bit on water

905
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:54,799
component of that because

906
00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:56,559
for you

907
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,640
when you've been in space water is such

908
00:33:01,909 --> 00:33:00,320
a limited resource

909
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:01,919
i imagine you have to treat it with a

910
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:03,760
lot of care

911
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:05,679
what what does water signify for you i

912
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,799
assume it's different than what it

913
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,480
signifies for me

914
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:10,799
here or another well you know it's

915
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,039
interesting living in space helps you to

916
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:15,200
appreciate the things that we take for

917
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,600
granted or at least really um

918
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:19,760
just expect to be there like water you

919
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,919
know in space we have to reclaim water

920
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,760
we actually take you know that i heard

921
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:25,440
someone say once i believe it was mike

922
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,279
fossum we turned yesterday's coffee into

923
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:29,600
tomorrow's coffee it's because we take

924
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,919
the water out of everything if i run on

925
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:33,760
the treadmill and sweat into it and wipe

926
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:36,080
my face with a towel i hang that towel

927
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,000
up and the air conditioning system will

928
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:40,399
will dry it out and pull that moisture

929
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:42,480
out of the air and our air conditioner

930
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,080
will separate it take the moisture out

931
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:46,000
put it in our water system that purifies

932
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:47,919
it and turns it into drinking water

933
00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,679
water is extremely valuable and so it

934
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,919
represents life to me i think it's

935
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:53,440
that's the most exciting part the

936
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,360
ability to get access to that that

937
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:57,519
resource that is already up there on the

938
00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:00,640
moon is is a critical capability a very

939
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:02,080
very neat thing to be able to do and

940
00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:03,519
this technology that these students are

941
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:05,919
working on the ingenuity the new ideas i

942
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:07,039
mean they're not all going to take the

943
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:08,320
same approach and that's one of the

944
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,760
things i think is really exciting about

945
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,599
this type of competition

946
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:13,359
how do you think as an astronaut

947
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,879
technology that's derived from

948
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:16,639
competitions like this one the moon to

949
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:19,040
mars ice and prospecting challenge could

950
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,359
directly impact you and other future

951
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:23,440
astronauts as you explore the moon as

952
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:25,839
you explore mars

953
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:27,440
you know knowing that these these

954
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:28,639
students are creating something that

955
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:31,200
might be the a tool that we use in space

956
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,520
one day is actually quite motivating and

957
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,679
inspiring and to see some of the ideas

958
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,839
they come up with but more importantly i

959
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:39,599
think the ideas they come up with are

960
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:41,839
great but then to see the physical

961
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:43,839
competition where they show their

962
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:45,760
hardware they have a design some of

963
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:48,079
they've had to code for and they they

964
00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:50,079
put all of that together hardware and

965
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:52,159
software and they put it out there and

966
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:53,919
then they run it they have to come up

967
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:56,079
with procedures they have to communicate

968
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,480
work together as a team and and

969
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:00,320
move this material from one place to

970
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,200
another it's so amazing to actually see

971
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,760
that idea become a reality and so this

972
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:07,599
type of competition i think is so

973
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:10,240
important to inspire those students to

974
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,280
to to dream and create uh but also for

975
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,280
us to to learn about what what ideas are

976
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:17,359
out there because nasa has some very

977
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:18,960
good things that we've done for a long

978
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:20,800
time that are working and they work well

979
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,480
but that might not be the best or most

980
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:25,200
efficient way to do things right now

981
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:26,800
victor thank you so much for your time

982
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:30,079
today we are so appreciative

983
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,599
thank you molly it's been great talking

984
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,599
to you and congratulations to all the

985
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:35,599
students and advisors at the event great

986
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:41,030
if you're like me and could listen to

987
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:43,280
victor glover talk all day stay tuned

988
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:44,880
for part two of our interview where we

989
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:47,680
talk about nasa's artemis mission and we

990
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:49,760
get to hear from him firsthand what it

991
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:51,760
would be like to actually be using this

992
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:54,480
technology on the moon one day so stay

993
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:55,760
with us you don't want to miss that and

994
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:57,680
if you're just now joining us we are

995
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,160
coming to you live from the moon to mars

996
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:02,480
ice and prospecting challenge

997
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:04,160
where university teams are drilling

998
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:07,119
through simulated lunar and martian soil

999
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:09,599
in an attempt to extract water from the

1000
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,359
ice below

1001
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:13,200
now one day systems like these could be

1002
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:14,960
used to extract water ice below the

1003
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,599
surface of the moon or mars and for

1004
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,160
future explorers being able to access

1005
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:22,880
resources like water will be crucial for

1006
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:25,200
creating a sustained human presence

1007
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:27,119
beyond earth

1008
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,400
so now that you get a little bit of

1009
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,720
context about the challenge itself i'm

1010
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,000
joined here on the floor with some of

1011
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:34,240
the team so we can see how it's going in

1012
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,359
the pit area so um pollock and eric you

1013
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,359
guys are both from mit

1014
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,440
paula give me just a rundown of your

1015
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,440
design and your system

1016
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:45,599
right so um i just first of all like to

1017
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:47,280
say that we've got an amazing team of

1018
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:49,760
seven people and we have complementary

1019
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:51,040
um like

1020
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,960
skills and it's just amazing what we've

1021
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:55,119
actually come up with so we have a

1022
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:56,800
really stable rig this time and we

1023
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,480
focused on that a lot

1024
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:01,040
so we've got a parallel drill and a

1025
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:04,240
heater as well so first we drill a hole

1026
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:05,920
that's about an inch

1027
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:08,400
in diameter and then we use a servo

1028
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:10,720
motor that's really accurate and on the

1029
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:13,280
y-axis we move the heater into place

1030
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:16,320
right above the drilled hole and then we

1031
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,560
drop the heater down and use radiative

1032
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:21,040
heating to melt the ice and basically

1033
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:23,680
going into mars melting the ice and we

1034
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:26,480
use a pump to pump the water out

1035
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:27,440
and so

1036
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:29,440
yeah that's basically the hardware of

1037
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:32,400
what we do and this can be controlled by

1038
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,440
a team of i guess astronauts where we

1039
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:36,960
don't actually have to touch the

1040
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:39,520
instrument and we're just working on

1041
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:41,839
the just controlling it from a distance

1042
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,359
and i've been really lucky and i've

1043
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,880
gotten to actually be one of those

1044
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,280
astronauts for our system so yeah that's

1045
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:49,200
exactly how our hardware works so it's

1046
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,040
not autonomous yet it could be but right

1047
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:53,280
now it's hands off and while it's hands

1048
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,280
off the software side takes over which

1049
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:57,920
is your department eric so so walk me

1050
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:00,320
through some of the software and some of

1051
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:02,160
the unique tools that you're using to

1052
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,599
get some of your data especially for

1053
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,440
that digital core i heard it's something

1054
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,640
like this

1055
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,560
okay cool yeah so you know first off we

1056
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:10,320
got a microphone you know we got it

1057
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:12,800
closely attached to jail and you know

1058
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:14,720
getting water is nice now we've done a

1059
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,800
fantastic job at doing that but one of

1060
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:18,720
the main things that you know we really

1061
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:20,720
want for the moon and mars is to

1062
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,880
understand what are the layers that make

1063
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:24,800
up the thing we're digging so one of the

1064
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:27,200
many things that we have is a microphone

1065
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,880
and you know you can sense the vibration

1066
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:30,079
the different kind of sounds whenever

1067
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:31,280
you're drilling into a different kind of

1068
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:32,720
material the other thing is that we're

1069
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,880
on a bit sensor so whenever you know

1070
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,960
more force is being applied to the drill

1071
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,720
we would know immediately more current

1072
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,160
is being applied to it more current to

1073
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:42,960
the you know the drill the motor moving

1074
00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:45,599
the drill downwards and you can also

1075
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:47,599
read the current of the drill bit as

1076
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:49,119
well as

1077
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,400
yeah that's pretty much it and you know

1078
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,320
we have all that and then we map it into

1079
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:54,560
like a neural net so you know a

1080
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,079
combination of data you know heavy

1081
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,520
statistics then you could figure out

1082
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:59,119
okay i'm drilling in clay and i'm

1083
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,960
drilling in you know concrete right now

1084
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:02,640
i'm drilling in soil right now oh i'm

1085
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:04,160
drilling an ice you know and that's how

1086
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:05,440
you know you want to turn on the heater

1087
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:08,320
you want to you know you want to put the

1088
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:11,119
heater down melt the water and you know

1089
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,560
get water out

1090
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:14,640
i've covered this competition for years

1091
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:16,720
and i hadn't seen a microphone before i

1092
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:18,560
wouldn't have thought to utilize a wave

1093
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,119
file like that yeah it's uh you know it

1094
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:23,040
was just at the very end we were

1095
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:24,400
realizing oh it's making different kind

1096
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,320
of sounds we can probably figure out

1097
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:28,320
what sounds it is and you know there we

1098
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:29,760
go

1099
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,680
how confident are you and your ability

1100
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:33,359
to capture a clean water sample from

1101
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:34,960
this would you drink the water that your

1102
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:37,119
your system produces over here yeah i

1103
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:38,720
would drink the water like it's

1104
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:40,640
relatively clean you know i drink

1105
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:43,680
dirtier water in my life before

1106
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:45,040
but um

1107
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:47,200
all the name of science right yeah yeah

1108
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:49,359
yeah and obnoxious you know dealings

1109
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,560
with

1110
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:52,480
we'll take it it's a live show well

1111
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,680
thank you guys so much i know you have a

1112
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:55,119
bunch of work to get back to so thank

1113
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:56,640
you very much i appreciate your time so

1114
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:58,320
much for having us yeah yeah thank you

1115
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,310
let's come over here we've got someone

1116
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,240
else to talk to really quick

1117
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:06,160
so this is cole collier with the

1118
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,920
university of pittsburgh

1119
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,960
right

1120
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,720
so cole tell me a little bit about your

1121
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,720
your machine your design

1122
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:14,319
uh sure um

1123
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:17,040
so our system is actually pretty unique

1124
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,319
when you compare it to the rest of the

1125
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:20,400
systems around here uh we're the only

1126
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,400
team this year to attempt to extract

1127
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,440
water as a vapor instead of a liquid

1128
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,440
let me ask the question is are we doing

1129
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:29,119
the right thing if no one else here is

1130
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,800
choosing that approach why did you

1131
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,880
choose that approach well we really fell

1132
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:34,319
in love with the theme of this

1133
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,319
competition which is to build a robot

1134
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:38,640
that could extract water on mars and on

1135
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:39,599
the moon

1136
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:42,560
and the conditions on mar on mars and on

1137
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:44,000
the moon

1138
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:45,839
suggest that

1139
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,400
you can actually have ice uh sublimate

1140
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:50,720
directly to a gaseous form when you add

1141
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:53,839
heat and so easier than here on earth uh

1142
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:56,720
yes so uh we're actually having the

1143
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,880
hardest time competing here on earth and

1144
00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:00,480
if we were to send our assistant to the

1145
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:02,160
moon we'd actually have an easier time

1146
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:03,440
we'll have to talk to shelly one of the

1147
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,960
event organizers about maybe just doing

1148
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,880
it up there next time be easier for you

1149
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:08,000
guys

1150
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:12,400
yeah um i think uh um the cto of nasa

1151
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,839
told us we're gonna ship it up there

1152
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:15,440
next week

1153
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:18,160
wait seriously oh

1154
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,680
i was like no one told me it's not my

1155
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:21,119
cue cards

1156
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:23,040
well have you burned through any heating

1157
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:24,160
apparatus

1158
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,920
today to get to this point yes we've

1159
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,280
we've already gone through one heating

1160
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:29,520
element but i have great news a couple

1161
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:30,800
hours ago we actually were able to

1162
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:38,870
that's great congratulations

1163
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:41,280
super excited it's amazing um and

1164
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,280
special thanks to my whole team we all

1165
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:45,599
put in a ton of hard work this past year

1166
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:48,240
more than i think we all expected but we

1167
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:50,160
all wrote we rose to the challenge and

1168
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,960
um

1169
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,400
i'm just super proud of all the guys

1170
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:54,319
that we have with us today oh that's

1171
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,000
awesome congratulations cool i'm really

1172
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,160
excited for you guys we all are here

1173
00:42:01,670 --> 00:42:00,319
this is not an easy challenge and one of

1174
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:01,680
the things that you can go ahead and get

1175
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,400
back to um one of the things that uh i

1176
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,720
think is really important is the judges

1177
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:08,480
here so natalie over the correspondence

1178
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:10,400
desk has someone a special guest that

1179
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,400
knows the in and outs i might even argue

1180
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,920
the official in and outs of this

1181
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,680
challenge so natalie we'll kick it over

1182
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,760
to you at the correspondence desk

1183
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:20,000
yes molly i do have a very important

1184
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:22,240
person with me i'm joined by chris jones

1185
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,160
and he's one of the judges of today's

1186
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,319
competition so happy you could join us

1187
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,560
chris natalie it's great to be here yes

1188
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:30,960
so chris you've been so instrumental in

1189
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,119
this the creation of this challenge so

1190
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,280
you're probably the best person to ask

1191
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:37,680
how does this challenge work and what do

1192
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:40,079
students need to accomplish so we really

1193
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,760
have two big challenges that we're

1194
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,440
asking the students to do here and it's

1195
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,440
why we call it the moon to mars ice and

1196
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:47,040
prospecting challenge

1197
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,960
part of that is the prospecting side of

1198
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,800
it and what we're looking for here is

1199
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,319
for teams to be able to give us what we

1200
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,319
call a digital core

1201
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:55,920
we've given them these test beds that

1202
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:57,680
have multiple layers but they don't know

1203
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,599
what those layers are before they get to

1204
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:02,160
the ice so we're asking them to use the

1205
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,079
sensors and the instruments they have

1206
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:06,480
aboard their systems to determine what

1207
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:09,040
those layers are how hard they are how

1208
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,680
many of them are there and give us that

1209
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,839
information back as a demonstration of

1210
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:15,599
the kind of thing we could do as we're

1211
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,920
exploring moon in artemis

1212
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:19,839
and then they need to once they find

1213
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,160
that core they need to find and collect

1214
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:24,720
water also how does that work right so

1215
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,720
the other half of this is getting to

1216
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,160
that ice that's at the bottom of the

1217
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:30,079
cooler and processing that in some

1218
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,000
fashion into water they can deliver to

1219
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:34,240
us so they know there's ice there

1220
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:35,520
they've designed their systems to

1221
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,359
acquire it but they also have to design

1222
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,960
these systems such that they have

1223
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,800
forward application to future missions

1224
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:43,440
we would do on the moon and on mars in

1225
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:45,440
order to be something we can use someday

1226
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:46,800
in a real mission

1227
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:49,359
and then after all of that chris

1228
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,520
how does a team win the moon to mars ice

1229
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:53,440
and prospecting challenge okay a big

1230
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:55,200
part of it is how much water can you

1231
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,720
deliver to us you get a lot of points

1232
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,240
for showing up with a lot of water that

1233
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,800
you can use but beyond that the quality

1234
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:03,200
of that digital core did you understand

1235
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:04,800
the layers you went through we give you

1236
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,640
points for that the teams have also

1237
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:08,480
written technical papers that explain

1238
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:10,240
not just how their concept works here

1239
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:13,119
for the earth demonstration but also how

1240
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,800
it would be adjusted to work on the moon

1241
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:16,640
and on mars what's the path to flight so

1242
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,319
that we at nasa could potentially take

1243
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,480
advantage of this and all of the points

1244
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:22,000
for that come together to determine

1245
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,680
who's going to be the winning team

1246
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:25,359
and speaking of taking advantage of it

1247
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:27,280
what's on the line here and what can

1248
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,560
students win

1249
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:30,720
so among the things that are on the line

1250
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:34,319
here is uh the glory of doing this but

1251
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:36,000
more realistically and maybe of more

1252
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,680
interest to the students here we have a

1253
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:39,280
ten thousand dollar prize pool that the

1254
00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:40,960
judges will determine how to distribute

1255
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:42,240
among the teams

1256
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,920
in past years we've used that as a

1257
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:45,599
travel stipend to attend the space

1258
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:47,839
resources roundtable but it could also

1259
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,119
be used for any number of other

1260
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:51,280
opportunities for the students to go and

1261
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,440
present their ideas to a broader

1262
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,760
audience and in addition they get the

1263
00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:57,839
opportunity to provide these really cool

1264
00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:00,160
ideas to us here at nasa for us to

1265
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:02,000
hopefully someday build and fly very

1266
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:03,920
cool so we've got some questions coming

1267
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:05,839
in from the hashtag ask nasa for you

1268
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:08,880
chris so our first question is

1269
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:11,520
from a youtube user and they're asking

1270
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:13,760
what are a few things that might differ

1271
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:16,560
in experimenting on the moon and mars

1272
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,200
okay uh the two definitely are different

1273
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:22,079
environments both of them are much lower

1274
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:23,599
gravity than we have here on earth so

1275
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,800
teams would have to understand how to

1276
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:26,880
deal with that on the moon there's a

1277
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:29,200
vacuum which means that there is no air

1278
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,640
surrounding them at all and that's going

1279
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:33,440
to significantly impact the ability of a

1280
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,000
system to use certain kinds of pressure

1281
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,800
in order to acquire the resources

1282
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,480
in both locations they have to deal with

1283
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:42,720
dust but the way the dust behaves

1284
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,280
differs on the moon and on mars

1285
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,359
in addition the ways in which we might

1286
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,359
find ice are going to vary between those

1287
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,280
two on the moon we're probably going to

1288
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:52,880
find that in a permanently shadowed

1289
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:54,640
region which means we have to operate in

1290
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:56,960
cold and in darkness on mars we're

1291
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,119
hoping we can find it in much more

1292
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:01,440
accessible locations

1293
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:04,240
and so savant day silva on twitter uh

1294
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:06,640
excuse me on youtube asks what's the

1295
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:08,720
sole purpose of extracting water from

1296
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:12,079
the moon ooh on the moon so i think one

1297
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:14,400
of the biggest reasons to extract water

1298
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,960
on the moon is it's a chance to make up

1299
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,119
not just the life support goods that

1300
00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:21,200
astronauts would need things like water

1301
00:46:25,589 --> 00:46:23,599
or breathable oxygen but it's also a way

1302
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:25,599
to get the propellant they would use in

1303
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,599
the course of doing missions leaving the

1304
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,760
lunar surface and going back to earth

1305
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:31,440
orbit one of the things i've actually

1306
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,720
looked at and worked with a number of

1307
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:35,119
folks on is when and where is the best

1308
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:37,920
location to use lunar isru where is it

1309
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:39,760
best to use that lunar water to support

1310
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,760
exploration and the answer is there's a

1311
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,200
lot of possibilities there for how it

1312
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,359
can really benefit us okay cool so we

1313
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,280
have another question from twitter this

1314
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,000
time and amber wants to know due to the

1315
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:52,400
freezing temperatures on mars how will

1316
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,720
you keep the water from re-freezing

1317
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:56,480
after it's been extracted it's an

1318
00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:58,400
interesting challenge and it's not the

1319
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,079
only challenge we have with managing the

1320
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:02,240
water because of the low pressure there

1321
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:03,760
water is also at risk of turning

1322
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:06,880
directly from ice into a gas which means

1323
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:08,319
that we can't even capture it as a

1324
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,319
liquid some of the teams here are

1325
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,240
looking at using and taking advantage of

1326
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,800
that but often it's a balance of keeping

1327
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:16,720
it warm enough keeping it pressurized

1328
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:19,119
enough with additional systems in order

1329
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,240
to make sure

1330
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,400
that we can keep it in a usable state

1331
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,800
for future missions cool and chris fair

1332
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,880
on facebook asks if you do find

1333
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:28,480
launching from the moon to mars as a

1334
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,559
viable option what would you first have

1335
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,720
to transport to the moon to ready a

1336
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:34,960
launch okay so in order to take

1337
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:36,400
advantage of this we're going to need

1338
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:38,720
the systems that can find this ice

1339
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:40,400
before we can ever take advantage of it

1340
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:41,920
then the systems that can mine it

1341
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,599
process it store it turn it into

1342
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:46,000
something useful and it's going and

1343
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,079
demonstrating all of these and doing the

1344
00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:49,760
science that's needed to find where it

1345
00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:51,920
is in order to turn it into something we

1346
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:54,000
can do very cool kind of like the stuff

1347
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:55,760
we're doing today absolutely this is a

1348
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,920
great first step yes well thank you

1349
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,920
chris it has been a pleasure and i know

1350
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:01,280
you not only put this competition

1351
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:03,440
together but you're also a judge so i'll

1352
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:04,960
let you get back to that all right

1353
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:07,200
thanks natalie all right now molly back

1354
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:08,720
to you

1355
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:10,720
thanks natalie as some of you all might

1356
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:12,559
have seen earlier in the show i had the

1357
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,480
amazing opportunity to sit down with

1358
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,720
astronaut victor glover and talk about

1359
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:18,480
this challenge and how it affects

1360
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:20,079
astronauts like him that might be end

1361
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:22,400
users of this technology today and might

1362
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:25,599
also get the opportunity to walk here so

1363
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:28,000
let's take a little look at what victor

1364
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had to say

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as we speak mass is actively preparing

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to send humans to the moon as part of

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the artemis program so

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what is artemis and

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is it essentially the next apollo

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you know i i think that's an easy way to

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describe it but but uh

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it's not the next apollo it's our

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generation's moon program it is artemis

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uh but but if you're familiar with

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apollo it is a similar concept we are

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building a very large rocket sls which

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stands for the space launch system it's

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going to be a very powerful very big

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rocket that's capable of getting a

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spacecraft orion to lunar orbit uh which

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will enable us to get humans there and

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to a gateway uh which would be like a

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space station that's orbiting around the

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moon we'd be able to get humans to the

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gateway or to a human lander system that

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then could get human beings to the

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surface of the moon and then one other

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very exciting component is artemis

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astronauts and so we're starting to

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identify folks that are going to be a

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part of it and we call it team artemis

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and so we're going to start hopefully in

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the very near future actually naming

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folks from team artemis but also the the

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greater astronaut office as well as our

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international partners

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to these missions specifically and those

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will be the actual artemis lunar

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astronauts that's very exciting very

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exciting

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how would it feel to be the next person

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to walk on the moon what would that mean

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to you

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you know i

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i really

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i have no idea i mean i just i thought

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going into space and living on the space

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station was going to feel a certain way

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and it did but also so much more than

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that it blew away my expectations and so

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i could only imagine

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not even going to the surface of the

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moon but actually

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being in orbit around the moon like or

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you know before you go down to the

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surface orbiting the moon

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and being able to just look out the

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window and see

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earth rise

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i mean think about that that picture

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that that bill anders took you know

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changed the way people saw themselves

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when they see our planet and so for me

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to be able to witness that with my own

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eyes or even to be in mission control

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as the communicator as the capcom

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speaking to crew members my colleagues

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my friends while they're experiencing

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that

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it would be unreal and so i i really

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couldn't tell you how it would feel but

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i would love to go and have that

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experience and then come back and

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you know one of the things i love about

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being a part of competitions like this

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is you see

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people come together

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as the human race and you see all these

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different walks of life people from

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different backgrounds they speak

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different languages and make cases and

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um you really get to see this beautiful

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picture of our world and of our planet

1444
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:21,760
does having a view of our planet like

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00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:23,440
that that you've been able to have has

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00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,480
it changed your perspective on what life

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00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:28,880
is like here

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00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:31,280
you know going to to space one of the

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things that it makes you do i believe it

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would do this for all people is it makes

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00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:37,040
you appreciate life right there on the

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00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:39,200
surface you don't get to see you see the

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entire oceans you see these countries

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00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,319
without

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00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:44,079
borders you see entire continents you

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00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:46,640
it's amazing that perspective doing any

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00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,720
of these amazing science and technology

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00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:50,640
things like living in space putting

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00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:53,680
humans in space requires us to do our

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00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:56,480
best in just about every science and

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00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:58,480
technology endeavor that we've had life

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00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:00,880
support medical health radiation

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00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,559
protection water reclamation waste

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00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:04,800
management and and all of those things

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drive us to be our best selves and they

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00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:09,920
remind us that we need the best from

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everyone and that's what's great about

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00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:13,599
these competitions seeing these students

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00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:15,760
from all over the country from all these

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universities especially my alma mater

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00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:20,000
cal poly go mustangs learn by doing for

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00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,280
the bad news

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00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:23,359
i think you do i just got comfortable

1474
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,720
over here unfortunately we're out of

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00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,640
time but i tell you what we have seen

1476
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,800
some really amazing prototypes today

1477
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:30,480
i've seen designs i've never seen here

1478
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,800
before covering this competition so i

1479
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,319
truly believe we've heard it over and

1480
00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:36,240
over again today that the technology

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00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:38,559
that's being developed today will really

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00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:41,040
help us advance exploration as a whole

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00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:42,720
in space as we start to pursue other

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00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:44,720
worlds like mars and of course the moon

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00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,160
yes and it's really going to be these

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00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,760
students ideas and the ideas of the

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00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:49,119
future that are going to help us take

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00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:50,720
that next giant leap and i'm very

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00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:53,200
excited and i want more people to get

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involved and i think people are

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00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:56,640
wondering how they can do that so if you

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00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:58,000
want to get involved and you're curious

1493
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:00,400
about more challenges like this you can

1494
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:03,440
subscribe to the nasa express newsletter

1495
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,720
at nasa.gov backslash stem backslash

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00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:08,640
express and if you want to learn more

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00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:12,160
about our very exciting artemis program

1498
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:15,440
visit nasa.gov backslash artemis

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all right well thank you for joining us

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today on nasa science live i'm natalie

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joseph and i'm molly mckinney and we'll

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see you next time thank you bye